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	<description>Opening Joss Whedon&#039;s Dollhouse</description>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.dollverse.com/2010/01/discuss-the-final-episode-of-dollhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-2979</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is Echo.  Remember at one point Boyd asks if she is Caroline or Echo and she says &quot;I am everything you made me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is Echo.  Remember at one point Boyd asks if she is Caroline or Echo and she says &#8220;I am everything you made me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.dollverse.com/2010/01/discuss-the-final-episode-of-dollhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-2978</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, I was NOT happy with this episode.  Especially that stupid Paul/Echo combo thing.  I mean, seriously...  That was a stretch to get to the happy ending thing.  I was MUCH happier with the &quot;oops, guess we didn&#039;t save the world after all&quot; ending.  MUCH more realistic and much cooler.  But then, I&#039;m not a big fan of the extremely-unlikely happy ending... I prefer realism and the ending that makes you think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, I was NOT happy with this episode.  Especially that stupid Paul/Echo combo thing.  I mean, seriously&#8230;  That was a stretch to get to the happy ending thing.  I was MUCH happier with the &#8220;oops, guess we didn&#8217;t save the world after all&#8221; ending.  MUCH more realistic and much cooler.  But then, I&#8217;m not a big fan of the extremely-unlikely happy ending&#8230; I prefer realism and the ending that makes you think</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.dollverse.com/2010/01/discuss-the-final-episode-of-dollhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-2977</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was WAY more annoyed by a MUCH bigger plot hole... 
1)The mind disks were still at the Dollhouse
2) Topher HAS a back-up
3) Topher is having trouble working because of his mental illness
 Why the HECK didn&#039;t they just back him up to an earier, un-messed up version of himself!?  Its what I would do to my computer if it malfunctioned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was WAY more annoyed by a MUCH bigger plot hole&#8230;<br />
1)The mind disks were still at the Dollhouse<br />
2) Topher HAS a back-up<br />
3) Topher is having trouble working because of his mental illness<br />
 Why the HECK didn&#8217;t they just back him up to an earier, un-messed up version of himself!?  Its what I would do to my computer if it malfunctioned!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU! I&#039;ve been going NUTS....

Whedon Rulz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU! I&#8217;ve been going NUTS&#8230;.</p>
<p>Whedon Rulz</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 5th paragraph down, i meant to put &quot;A Spy in the House if Love,&quot; not &quot;Man on the Street.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 5th paragraph down, i meant to put &#8220;A Spy in the House if Love,&#8221; not &#8220;Man on the Street.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to say I loved the dinner table scene where Paul calls Zone &quot;kid&quot; or something. Suddenly everyone breaks down and there is almost gag-reel familiarity. An instant of complete, unreserved, comfort and happyness. Not many of those on a Whedon show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to say I loved the dinner table scene where Paul calls Zone &#8220;kid&#8221; or something. Suddenly everyone breaks down and there is almost gag-reel familiarity. An instant of complete, unreserved, comfort and happyness. Not many of those on a Whedon show.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. There is NO HARD EVIDENCE to suggest that Dominic was the one placing the secret messages into the dolls. 

When November went to Paul with the secret message programmed in her, this was before the threat of the spy was made aware to Dominic by Topher. So whoever sent the message probably knew it&#039;d be the last one and that Paul would use November to find a way back to the Dollhouse.

And plus, there&#039;s no way Dominic would be smart enough to know what he&#039;s doing to pull it off.

My theory is that Ivy was the one who was placing the messages into the dolls. She was definitely smart enough to pull it off. Also, in &quot;Man on the Street,&quot; when Topher had Ivy get his food, he left and talked to Boyd for a sec while someone altered the personality. It is possible for it to have been her.

And in &quot;Man on the Street,&quot; when Mellie had the secret message in her, IVY WAS THE ONE that programmed her. Not topher or anyone else, Ivy! Topher was talking to Boyd at that point about the &quot;spy.&quot; Maybe Ivy new about Dominic and this was her way of setting him up.

By the ends of season one, I believed that Ivy was working with an underground faction trying to free the dolls maybe and take down Rossum.. and maybe Caroline was involved somehow.

Then after watching all of season 2 I looked back and my theory evolved. My new theory was that Bennett was still working her own angle against Rossum. Even after Caroline left her and she was left to work for the evil corporation, I believe she still wanted to see them fall. 

My new theory was that Bennett imprinted herself minus some of the neuroses maybe.. into IVY!!! After looking at both performances, i believe this was the direction Joss was going in.. I could be wrong. But Ivy to me was Bennett&#039;s spy, which is how she knew about &quot;Alpha and Ballard.&quot;

Also I think when it appeared that Bennett was torturing Echo, she probably was but also pushing Echo to her mental capacity which is how she adapted into a person.
She also let her go and set Perrin after her, which could&#039;ve been a test for Echo, to see if she was worthy.. 

I&#039;m tired now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. There is NO HARD EVIDENCE to suggest that Dominic was the one placing the secret messages into the dolls. </p>
<p>When November went to Paul with the secret message programmed in her, this was before the threat of the spy was made aware to Dominic by Topher. So whoever sent the message probably knew it&#8217;d be the last one and that Paul would use November to find a way back to the Dollhouse.</p>
<p>And plus, there&#8217;s no way Dominic would be smart enough to know what he&#8217;s doing to pull it off.</p>
<p>My theory is that Ivy was the one who was placing the messages into the dolls. She was definitely smart enough to pull it off. Also, in &#8220;Man on the Street,&#8221; when Topher had Ivy get his food, he left and talked to Boyd for a sec while someone altered the personality. It is possible for it to have been her.</p>
<p>And in &#8220;Man on the Street,&#8221; when Mellie had the secret message in her, IVY WAS THE ONE that programmed her. Not topher or anyone else, Ivy! Topher was talking to Boyd at that point about the &#8220;spy.&#8221; Maybe Ivy new about Dominic and this was her way of setting him up.</p>
<p>By the ends of season one, I believed that Ivy was working with an underground faction trying to free the dolls maybe and take down Rossum.. and maybe Caroline was involved somehow.</p>
<p>Then after watching all of season 2 I looked back and my theory evolved. My new theory was that Bennett was still working her own angle against Rossum. Even after Caroline left her and she was left to work for the evil corporation, I believe she still wanted to see them fall. </p>
<p>My new theory was that Bennett imprinted herself minus some of the neuroses maybe.. into IVY!!! After looking at both performances, i believe this was the direction Joss was going in.. I could be wrong. But Ivy to me was Bennett&#8217;s spy, which is how she knew about &#8220;Alpha and Ballard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also I think when it appeared that Bennett was torturing Echo, she probably was but also pushing Echo to her mental capacity which is how she adapted into a person.<br />
She also let her go and set Perrin after her, which could&#8217;ve been a test for Echo, to see if she was worthy.. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired now.</p>
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		<title>By: William's fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>William's fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonight, Superbowl Sunday, Feb. 7, if you live in the Chicago area, Channel ll PBS will be broadcasting Miss Austen Regrets, with Olivia Williams (DeWitt) starring as Jane Austen.  I&#039;ve seen this before, and she is fantastic!  TeVo or record is while you&#039;re watching the game - you won&#039;t regret it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight, Superbowl Sunday, Feb. 7, if you live in the Chicago area, Channel ll PBS will be broadcasting Miss Austen Regrets, with Olivia Williams (DeWitt) starring as Jane Austen.  I&#8217;ve seen this before, and she is fantastic!  TeVo or record is while you&#8217;re watching the game &#8211; you won&#8217;t regret it!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.dollverse.com/2010/01/discuss-the-final-episode-of-dollhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is JOSS IS BOSS!!! Im going to miss dollhouse:(</description>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://www.dollverse.com/2010/01/discuss-the-final-episode-of-dollhouse/comment-page-1/#comment-2955</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love the show&#039;s final, think it ended well but not brilliant - the end with paul inside echo&#039;s head was just cheesy and kinda creepy. mostly because the scenes shortly before of echo breaking down were powerfull and believable and showed that echo was a full person with flaws.


like many have said there are still questions so i personally hope there will be comics/books which fill in the gaps between hallow men and the future eps. 

overall i will deeply miss DH, it has been years since a TV show has hooked me in, to the point where im desparate for the next ep to find out what happens and care about nearly all of the characters; especially adelle,priya,victor,topher, echo,november</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love the show&#8217;s final, think it ended well but not brilliant &#8211; the end with paul inside echo&#8217;s head was just cheesy and kinda creepy. mostly because the scenes shortly before of echo breaking down were powerfull and believable and showed that echo was a full person with flaws.</p>
<p>like many have said there are still questions so i personally hope there will be comics/books which fill in the gaps between hallow men and the future eps. </p>
<p>overall i will deeply miss DH, it has been years since a TV show has hooked me in, to the point where im desparate for the next ep to find out what happens and care about nearly all of the characters; especially adelle,priya,victor,topher, echo,november</p>
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