Comments on: Season two episode one – Vows – your thoughts please!

By: cris (michigan)

cris (michigan) — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:34:57 +0000

i loved the episode where victor and echo’s inprints switched. victor was flawless with the terry inprint and the kiki inprint were seemless at first it was difficult to tell the difference between the orginal terry and the inprint terry in victor but a little less confinsing when echo was terry comeon how many men wake up in a womans body wearing heels and not notice and or be able to walk steadly in high heels with out woobling . the kiki seane with victor with him dancing was so funny i laughed so hard i cried .

By: SeanH

SeanH — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:54:54 +0000

Well, I was really disappointed. I know this goes against the general run of opinion here but I honestly think this was a terrible opener. I speak as someone who was quite hopeful after last season’s mostly excellent closing run of episodes. But Vows just seemed to repeat some of last year’s most egregious errors and move us forward very little. Firstly, the wedding should have been the teaser. Even the most basic TV writer would have known that (was the padded nature of the plotting caused by Whedon moving the Epitaph One segments into later episodes?). But – worse, the wedding was completely dramatically redundant: who thought they were going to stay married or that Jamie Bamber’s cardboard cutout bad guy *wasn’t* going to turn on Echo in a violent scene where he bashed her about? That’s NONE of you, right? Still, at least it achieved the required aim: shots of Echo/Caroline removing her wedding dress to reveal her underwear ten minutes in before she’s raped again. Whedon – the great feminist. Hurray! Also, I don’t buy that Paul Ballard would be allowed to indulge himself in this way – especially when, according to Whedon, hiring an Active costs “in the low millions” – for FOUR MONTHS without Adele being sent to the attic. Awfully directed fight scene that “zolves” the jeopardy plot? Please, no. Intercut with this boring nonsense were scenes of sixth-form philosophy back in the D-house – how exactly is Whiskey smuggling rats’n'stuff into Topher’s cupboard again? Anybody? Lame. And, again, signs that Adele can’t manage her staff, setting up tensions between Topher and Whiskey which are goiung to be totally wasted as Acker is only in three episodes anyway. Fundamentally, I don’t care about any of the characters, the dialogie is workaday and the plotting is all over the shop. Whedon has always struggled with season openers but this was the worst I’ve ever seen from him – in fact, I couldn’t believe he’d written and directed it – it would have been medicore for JJ Abrams. God only knows what any member of the general viewing public might have thought. Arrogant, lazy stuff, inexplicably praised on the fansites. Things had better pick up very quickly.

By: Moe

Moe — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:38:54 +0000

I like the show. Better enjoy the show while it lasts. Sadly the ratings were anemic and I’ll be shocked if the show makes it into the year if ratings don’t tick up.

By: Josef

Josef — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:25:53 +0000

Another great episode, but I had one off topic question. It sounded to me that Echo uses the F-word when she meets up with Ballard after the wedding, talking about her sore feet. Is my hearing a bit off on this one bit, or did the FCC miss a little something?

By: Cris from Blissful Madness

Cris from Blissful Madness — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:23:46 +0000

Adelle says herself in “Vows” that she’s interested to see how far Echo can go or what Echo can do despite all of the wackiness that was the Alpha situation, even though protocol says to send her to the Attic, so… *shrug*

By: Heather

Heather — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:47:07 +0000

I think that as Dr. Saunders, Whiskey had her status changed from “Active” to “Staff” in some way – enough for her to be granted privileges as would befit a staff member.

If you recall, in episode 9 last season (“A Spy in the House of Love”), when Echo-as-investigator interrogates staff to ferret out the mole/leak, she refers to Whiskey only as Dr. Claire Saunders, personnel file and all. And she asked her why she had never left the Dollhouse, why she doesn’t seek to balance DH life with “real” outside life.

By: Heather

Heather — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:33:26 +0000

It seemed to me that Echo wants to know the histories of all of the people she was imprinted with, not the histories of the other dolls. Maybe I’m mistaken, but I guess we’ll see as the season unfolds!

By: PaperSpock

PaperSpock — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:04:50 +0000

Ooohh… I was left wondering a few things. Namely, how long had Echo been on the prolonged engagement? It sounded as if it had been quite a while, and that she had courted Bamber the “normal” way. I also wonder exactly what Paul was doing all this time. I mean, if he was a client, what was his payment? Clearly, occupying the house’s best doll would have cost the house a lot of money. Also, its been established that prolonged missions can cause instability, and with Echo the way she was initially, I’m not sure why Adelle was willing to take that risk.

Anyways, it was a stunning episode, leaving me intrigued for next week, though the trailer killed some of my excitement. I can’t wait to see what exactly the major arc of the season is going to entail. Also, I’m curious how self aware Echo currently is during missions themselves. I’m hoping to see some more Victor/Sierra action as well

By: M

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:17:42 +0000

Heh, my bad. Didn’t realise that. In that case, he did a damn fine job in BSG. However, the accent he’s using is close to his own but isn’t his natural accent. He wasn’t exactly great in his role, the accent still seemed strained and very ‘put on’.

Just watched a few Youtube interviews and that isn’t his natural tone / accent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75tjuHWwvI&feature=related

By: Kyle Michaud

Kyle Michaud — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:00:54 +0000

You do know that Jamie Bamber is actually British, right?