Episode 5 – True Believer – Your thoughts
I think it’s the best episode yet. Your thoughts? There’s also the forum topic.
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I think it’s the best episode yet. Your thoughts? There’s also the forum topic.
14 Responses
For crying out loud I can´t find the subtitles for this episode anywhere, what´s going on????
I can´t watch without it.
I loved it too! I think the show is finally starting to hit its stride. This episode and then “The Target” are the best I think.
Ugh. This reminds me of the preacher from Buffy. Why do they have to take Christianity and warp it like that? Totally unnecessary.
Well Beth, Joss Whedon is a firm atheist, and I think that has something to do with “warping Christianity.” Although I think they did an interesting thing this time by making the cult innocent. That impressed me a lot- even though that kind of 180 is a usual in a Joss Whedon show.
That was a real good one, I can finally say I enjoy the series now…
i am trying to like it, really hard..but the show sucks
I want to like Dollhouse. Maybe I do – but there is no love yet.
I knew the cult would be innocent, and that this would be the “twist.” I got the parallels being set up between the bliss of the dolls and the bliss of the cult. Yeah, we do need will/self awareness for true happiness – but did we need to hear that as an explicit statement in the script? Got the “preservation of innocence (Eden, the garden) is fundamentally violent” message on the level of the dolls’ lives and on the level of the lives of the cult members. Got that Echo continues to remember stuff and is clearly headed for some type of breakout/down.
And yet, with all this thematic and suspense-based potential, I am not feeling challenged or intrigued. I think this is because the messages and themes are embodied in situations rather than characters, and that makes them seem kind of trite and obvious.
Dollhouse continues to have some problems that have been stated many, many times by myself and others – the show needs a true ensemble feel (see: Firefly) to thrive; it’s not possible to identify with or like any of the dolls because they are non-characters; it is possible that Dushku can’t carry the show; Whedon can’t build his mythology soon enough or well enough because most viewers are dumb and impatient and need regular infusions of cleavage and shoot-em-ups to stay interested; etc, etc.
Let’s see what happens next.
Yeah….please somebody tell me why there are no subtitles in Net??
It’s difficult to make a show about characters with no personality, but I’m quite enjoying it so far.
I bet though, a lot of the people vieweing it are downloading or recording it for later, and those don’t count for viewing figures I guess. I think it’s finally starting to move, but is it too late?
if they´re recording for later with the tv on why wouldn´t it count??? I have been downloading ( for I´m not on Us) but then I go to hulu and play there to count, I can´t really wathc there cause it stops all the time but I leave it playing…
As for knitcrit comment, The problem I think is that the network has interfeared and they had to make those first episodes stand alone. For the show to work without that “ensemble feel” and having a “non-character” as the center, and very vague interactions between all of them, it has to dive deeper into its concept, or as they say “mithology”…whedon said that the show finds its way when it starts doing that, after the episode 6…It would be really dificult to love the show if it continues that way, but it won´t, as far as I´ve read…the episodes need to have more connected stories to compensate the lack of continuity of the character…
But I really liked this story
I liked it. I liked the part Boyd played in all of this. I liked the “miracle” of Ester seeing.
Knitcrit points out that what is sometimes emphasized in the show is obvious – but hey, I’ll take it. This is a show I can appreciate for what it is and what it will be, and that’s it’s meant to be different from anything Joss has previously done.
Even though the dolls have their persona’s changed repeatedly, they’re still there underneath the imprint, so I don’t feel that I can’t connect with them…it’s hard to explain. But I think it’s fun to watch out for those waking up/remembering moments, to know that we can meet their true selves eventually.
I was not a big fan of this one, I thought the last two were way better.
However, I have to say that Dusku really sold me on the being blind, and unlike knitcrik I feel that echo does have a personality I can attach to. Just like a new-born baby has a personality. Like a new-born baby it is still drowned in other things, but it is still there and I am beginning to see it.
dushku did well as the blind, I just got bothered by her make up, why would a blind religious woman wear that make up?? It spoiled a little the performance, but I think that Eliza has been unjustly criticized so far, she showed competence.
I think she´s better than sara( buffy) for sure
i loved this episode so much.
at first, i didn’t think i would
which is weird because i’m completely bias, and adore anything joss creates,
but about fifteen/twenty minutes in, i got hooked.
i’ve watched episodes 1 – 5 four times each, now x’]
btw, i think episode six looks fantastic.
i actually can not wait!