Comments on: Episode 4 – "Gray Hour" – Your thoughts http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/ Opening Joss Whedon's Dollhouse Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:56:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-297 Anonymous Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:47:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-297 We don't necessarily even know if the couple themselves hired Echo...<br/><br/>The man who requested an active to be a safe cracker said to Adelle that the piece of art being stolen was a gift for someone. The midwife engagement could have worked the same way. We don’t necessarily even know if the couple themselves hired Echo…

The man who requested an active to be a safe cracker said to Adelle that the piece of art being stolen was a gift for someone. The midwife engagement could have worked the same way.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Anonymous Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:08:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-295 Good point, Mr austin, I hadn´t noticed that relation, thank!<br/> everybody says like " why would they hire a doll for midwife?" and say it has no purpose, and don´t notice those details that make the story richer...<br/>Also Topher said it: " being wiped is not unlike being born" Good point, Mr austin, I hadn´t noticed that relation, thank!
everybody says like ” why would they hire a doll for midwife?” and say it has no purpose, and don´t notice those details that make the story richer…
Also Topher said it: ” being wiped is not unlike being born”

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-294 Anonymous Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:55:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-294 There´s a lot we can´t understand yet, as for the midwife thing, of course it wouldn´t be half as expensive as others dangerous jobs, why hire an active? If they didn´t say it was suposed for us to wonder about it, and that´s good...<br/>I´m interested to know how they got their costumers, if it´s illegal they cannot advertise their services, how such a big place can be hidden? do they have some cover, like pretending to be a healthy spa or something?<br/>I´m curious about those things but I won´t be casting stones just because they dont explain everything on the first episodes, I will wait to see how it turns out...<br/>-jim There´s a lot we can´t understand yet, as for the midwife thing, of course it wouldn´t be half as expensive as others dangerous jobs, why hire an active? If they didn´t say it was suposed for us to wonder about it, and that´s good…
I´m interested to know how they got their costumers, if it´s illegal they cannot advertise their services, how such a big place can be hidden? do they have some cover, like pretending to be a healthy spa or something?
I´m curious about those things but I won´t be casting stones just because they dont explain everything on the first episodes, I will wait to see how it turns out…
-jim

]]> By: Mr. Austin http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-293 Mr. Austin Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:27:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-293 Don't know if it was commented on yet, but the midwife thing was a tie in to the loss of her imprint. The baby was born despite some complications, she survived being "reborn" despite complications. I thought it was a nice way to introduce what was going to happen, though I agree I'm not sure why someone would hire an active that likely cost a ton of cash versus an actual midwife.<br/><br/>Still, better episode. Someone else needs to write for Topher. I'm getting tired of his shtick. Don’t know if it was commented on yet, but the midwife thing was a tie in to the loss of her imprint. The baby was born despite some complications, she survived being “reborn” despite complications. I thought it was a nice way to introduce what was going to happen, though I agree I’m not sure why someone would hire an active that likely cost a ton of cash versus an actual midwife.

Still, better episode. Someone else needs to write for Topher. I’m getting tired of his shtick.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Anonymous Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:06:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-292 as far as the birth-giving? Did anyone pay attention to the fact that it was in the middle of a snowy field? Maybe the parents wanted to give birth in the middle of a snow storm and couldn't find anyone who would do it. They didn't give the whole story- so stop making it seem like there may not have been a reason! as far as the birth-giving? Did anyone pay attention to the fact that it was in the middle of a snowy field? Maybe the parents wanted to give birth in the middle of a snow storm and couldn’t find anyone who would do it. They didn’t give the whole story- so stop making it seem like there may not have been a reason!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-291 Anonymous Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:49:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-291 The first three episodes were way cooler than this one. Probably because this one was a little bit darker. I love Dark shows but it's kind of hard to swallow an episode of darkness after three episodes of light and plus the twists which were added in this episode were way too much. The first three episodes were way cooler than this one. Probably because this one was a little bit darker. I love Dark shows but it’s kind of hard to swallow an episode of darkness after three episodes of light and plus the twists which were added in this episode were way too much.

]]> By: Sgt. Tanuki http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-287 Sgt. Tanuki Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:18:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-287 Re slipperbisk's comment, I do think the dolls are just high-class prostitutes, and I do think Joss wants us to feel conflicted about this (uncomfortable, yes, but also thrilled when they kick ass), and I do think Fox would be just as happy if we weren't particularly conflicted about them being high-class prostitutes, but I think Joss is using that, and all the other typical Fox action show hallmarks that show up in Dollhouse, for ironic effect. <br/><br/>I'm pleased with the show so far. It's very different from Buffy etc., but I would've been disappointed if it wasn't. I applaud him for doing something different. And the writing's just as sharp, even if it's not as humorous as in the past. Re slipperbisk’s comment, I do think the dolls are just high-class prostitutes, and I do think Joss wants us to feel conflicted about this (uncomfortable, yes, but also thrilled when they kick ass), and I do think Fox would be just as happy if we weren’t particularly conflicted about them being high-class prostitutes, but I think Joss is using that, and all the other typical Fox action show hallmarks that show up in Dollhouse, for ironic effect.

I’m pleased with the show so far. It’s very different from Buffy etc., but I would’ve been disappointed if it wasn’t. I applaud him for doing something different. And the writing’s just as sharp, even if it’s not as humorous as in the past.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Anonymous Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:28:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-286 Anonymous directly above my comment:<br/><br/>It's like Ballard said, people want more than what they have. So someone would hire a doll to deliver a baby because they want to be absolutely sure that this midwife will deliver the baby safely without harming both mother and infant. Maybe it's because they had trouble in the past, or because they're uuber paranoid, or whatever the reason was, they did it.<br/><br/>And the Dollhouse isn't easy to contact. You probably need to be super rich to even hear about it. <br/><br/>And come on; we're on episode 4. How much plot can come out in 4 episodes? There's been a surprising amount already, and a surprising amount of character development considering the main character has no personality. Anonymous directly above my comment:

It’s like Ballard said, people want more than what they have. So someone would hire a doll to deliver a baby because they want to be absolutely sure that this midwife will deliver the baby safely without harming both mother and infant. Maybe it’s because they had trouble in the past, or because they’re uuber paranoid, or whatever the reason was, they did it.

And the Dollhouse isn’t easy to contact. You probably need to be super rich to even hear about it.

And come on; we’re on episode 4. How much plot can come out in 4 episodes? There’s been a surprising amount already, and a surprising amount of character development considering the main character has no personality.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Anonymous Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:43:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-285 I didn't watch Buffy or Angel, so I'm not nitpicking over anything regarding those two shows. Newsflash! Outer space and vampires have nothing to do with how poorly written the show is, or how terrible an actress Eliza is. I'm giving it a chance because Firefly was so good. Otherwise I wouldn't have watched past the pilot. No one expects the shows to be the same, but we do expect the quality to be on par. <br/><br/>Why would anyone hire a "doll" to deliver their baby? I would assume a real midwife could be obtained much easier, and for a lot less money. Did they need a midwife who could also kick some ass? I thought that was about the silliest thing in the episode. <br/><br/>Also, if the Dollhouse is so easy to contact, why can't Helo find it? He must be the worst FBI agent ever. He should stick to Galactica, lol. I didn’t watch Buffy or Angel, so I’m not nitpicking over anything regarding those two shows. Newsflash! Outer space and vampires have nothing to do with how poorly written the show is, or how terrible an actress Eliza is. I’m giving it a chance because Firefly was so good. Otherwise I wouldn’t have watched past the pilot. No one expects the shows to be the same, but we do expect the quality to be on par.

Why would anyone hire a “doll” to deliver their baby? I would assume a real midwife could be obtained much easier, and for a lot less money. Did they need a midwife who could also kick some ass? I thought that was about the silliest thing in the episode.

Also, if the Dollhouse is so easy to contact, why can’t Helo find it? He must be the worst FBI agent ever. He should stick to Galactica, lol.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/episode-4-gray-hour-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Anonymous Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:21:00 +0000 http://dev.dollverse.com/?p=135#comment-284 Contrary to what some of you may say, I for one really enjoy this show. It has an interesting premise and lots of creative ideas brought to the table. <br/><br/>People just sound like they are nitpicking and trying to love the show as they did with Buffy/Angel/Firefly. Newsflash! It does not involve outer space or vampires and I doubt it will evolve into it. (Unless that floats your boat Joss.)<br/><br/>Eliza is an exceptional actress and has shown a much greater range than portrayed playing Faith. (Who knew she could belt it out?) Anyways, she obviously proved herself to Joss since he obviously made her the title character. I mean, this is the man who brought us the perfect actors for practically every part imaginable. (i.e. David Boreanaz/Angel, James Marster/Spike, Alan Tudyk/Wash, Amy Acker/Fred, Sarah Michelle/Buffy, Gina Torres/Zoe.... seriously the list goes on and on.) <br/><br/>So to those of you that like the show, Great! And if you don't then maybe you should try getting your heads out of the gutter and stop trying to make assumptions before the story is told in its entirety. We're promised 13 episodes and I am looking forward to the rest of the season! Still hate that it's on Fridays but thank goodness for the fox.com and hulu.com! Contrary to what some of you may say, I for one really enjoy this show. It has an interesting premise and lots of creative ideas brought to the table.

People just sound like they are nitpicking and trying to love the show as they did with Buffy/Angel/Firefly. Newsflash! It does not involve outer space or vampires and I doubt it will evolve into it. (Unless that floats your boat Joss.)

Eliza is an exceptional actress and has shown a much greater range than portrayed playing Faith. (Who knew she could belt it out?) Anyways, she obviously proved herself to Joss since he obviously made her the title character. I mean, this is the man who brought us the perfect actors for practically every part imaginable. (i.e. David Boreanaz/Angel, James Marster/Spike, Alan Tudyk/Wash, Amy Acker/Fred, Sarah Michelle/Buffy, Gina Torres/Zoe…. seriously the list goes on and on.)

So to those of you that like the show, Great! And if you don’t then maybe you should try getting your heads out of the gutter and stop trying to make assumptions before the story is told in its entirety. We’re promised 13 episodes and I am looking forward to the rest of the season! Still hate that it’s on Fridays but thank goodness for the fox.com and hulu.com!

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